So-called concensus on climate change

This blog post and the comments show the state of the so-called consensus among scientists.

Be sure to read the comments.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/09/editor-in-chief-of-remote-sensing-resigns-from-fallout-over-our-paper/

We must do something

"We must do something" is good intention speaking, but it shouldn't be confused with knowing what to do. Are the elite "greens" hi-jacking climate change in order to impose their societal view on the world? Read on... amazingly there are over 170 comments on this story already! http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2011/04/27/climate_change_thorium/

Save the planet: Stop the Greens • The Register

Comment I find myself in an uncomfortable position over this climate change thing. I've no problem with the existence of man-made climate change, no problem with the idea that we ought to do something about it. But what we are actually trying to do about it seems bonkers, counter-productive even.

If nuclear were dangerous it would be free

Mummy, mummy, there's a nuclear monster! • The Register

It is a total certainty that no child has or will suffer any such exposure. Occasionally, radio-iodine levels in water have been sampled at a rate which, if babies drank such water constantly for a year, they might achieve that one-in-a-million chance of dying decades down the road.

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If nuclear were allowed to be as dangerous as gas – that is, perhaps somewhere in the region of 400 times as dangerous in terms of deaths per terawatt-hour – there can be little doubt that electricity would become extremely cheap, maybe indeed too cheap to bother metering it for most users. Waste could be dealt with and supplies extended by many times by simply reprocessing fuel, something which the fearmongers have already managed to ban in many countries.

Greenpeace founder Patrick Moore comments

Page 2 is the best. This interview with Greenpeace founder Patrick Moore is not the astronomer.

Greenpeace co-founder talks biotech, nuclear and climate • The Register

We do not have a problem growing enough food today. We have a distribution issue, and poverty – but if they could distribute it better there'd be no problem providing it. Then there are issues of corruption and civil disorder, wars, that prevent the food getting through sometimes.

The sun is a major cause of global warming

The sun makes the earth warm! Shock news for global-warming zealots!
This is more evidence of the type mentioned at the end of this 90 minute talk on the falsity of the global warming trend and the harm and misery that comes to millions from following it.

Top Indian space boffin climate shocker • The Register

U R Rao has analysed 45 years of data and declared that the forcing from charged particles is higher than previously thought, at 1.1Wm-2, and human-forcing lower than the IPCC "consensus" of 1.6Wm-2.

Do climate models model climate?

Climate models have been modelling global warming rather than the climate:

"In particular, green plants can be expected to grow as they find it
easier to harvest carbon from the air around them using energy from the
sun: thus introducing a negative feedback into the warming/carbon
process. Most current climate models don't account for this at all"

it appears that at current rates we have at least 200 years before there is any dangerous warming.

New NASA model: Doubled CO2 means just 1.64°C warming • The Register

A group of top NASA boffins says that current climate models predicting global warming are far too gloomy, and have failed to properly account for an important cooling factor which will come into play as CO2 levels rise.

Global Warming Good for Rain Forests

Global warming is actually good for rainforests, say boffins • The Register

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OK, so let's take it that global warming is coming: that temperatures are set to rise by easily 3°C by the end of the century. Disaster, right? The tropical rainforests - lungs of the planet - will die, CO2 levels will thus rise even faster, a runaway process will set in and planet Earth will be transformed into a baking lifeless hell.

Not so much, according to top boffin Carlos Jaramillo of the US Smithsonian Institution. Jaramillo, who works at the Smithsonian's Tropical Research centre, says that 60 million years ago temperatures were up to 5°C higher than now and atmospheric CO2 was running close to 1000 parts per million - way beyond the planet-busting thresholds set by the UN - and yet the rainforests flourished.

"It is remarkable that there is so much concern about the effects of greenhouse conditions on tropical forests," says Jaramillo's Smithsonian colleague Klaus Winter.

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Diesels greener than battery cars

Diesels greener than battery cars, says Swiss gov report • The Register

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Swiss boffins have mounted an investigation into the largely unknown environmental burdens of electric cars using lithium-ion batteries, and say that the manufacturing and disposal of batteries presents no insurmountable barriers to electric motoring.

Really saving energy

Green people generally have no idea about saving energy

People who make an effort to be eco-friendly - for instance by recycling glass bottles, turning off lights and unplugging cellphone chargers - have no idea what they're on about, according to a new survey. Those who don't bother are more likely to know what actually saves energy and what doesn't.

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/18/energy_idiocy_survey/People

More not-global-warming

We'll never know if the climate models are right until we can see if what they predict actually happens or not; so we see the particular unhelpfulness of modelling complicated and chaotic things that we don't understand (lots of tautology there).

Mega new climate science: 'Runaway' effect exaggerated • The Register

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Top international boffins, having crunched vast amounts of climate data, say that the effect of "carbon feedback" - thought likely in some quarters to cause imminent runaway global warming followed by the end of human civilisation - has been exaggerated.